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DRAFT: Minutes of the C12 Committee on International Cooperation in Nuclear Physics (CICNP), held in Budapest, Hungary, August 3, 2005, in room 1.129 of the Physics Building of Eotvos Lorand University; one day before the start of QM2005.


  • Present: Anthony W. Thomas [Chair] - JLab
  • Jean-Michel Poutissou - TRIUMF
  • Barbara Erazmus (for Daniel Guerreau) - Subatech/IN2P3
  • Wen-qing Shen [observer] - National Natural Science Foundation of China
  • Susumu Shimoura (for Tohru Motobayashi) - University of Tokyo
  • Attila Kraszakorkay (for Muhsin N. Harakeh) - NuPECC
  • Shoji Nagamiya [Chair C12] - J-PARC
  • Willem T.H. van Oers [Secretary] - University of Manitoba
  • Marek Lewitowicz (for Sidney Gales, observer) - GANIL
  • Samuel H. Aronson - BNL
  • Walter F. Henning [Vice-Chair C12] - GSI
  • Dong-pil Min [observer] - Korea Science Foundation
  • Wenlong Zhan - Landzou
  • Stefan Michalowski - OECD
  • Alinka Lepine-Szily - Universidade de Sao Paulo
  • Richard F. Casten - NSAC-chair
  • Regrets: Alexey A. Ogloblin

1) Adoption of the proposed agenda (which was circulated)

2) Discussion about the IUPAP Brochure as made available:

not yet included were completed questionnaires received from SNOLAB and from the China Institute for Atomic Energy, Division of Nuclear Physics

! the threshold for inclusion is a main involvement in nuclear physics
! and an official user facility; underground laboratories involved
! in nuclear physics need to be included in the brochure

to be included in the brochure is information

from the Peoples Republic of China:

Beijing University [Wen-qing Shen]
IHEP in Beijing

from the Republic of China (Taiwan):

[Yang ?]

from Japan:

JAERI/Nuclear Physics
Kyushu/Laboratory for Nuclear Physics
Tohoku/Laboratory for Nuclear Physics
Tsukuba/Laboratory for Nuclear Physics
[W.T.H. van Oers spoke to Osamu Hashimoto about this]

Spring-8 (the nuclear physics beamline)
KEK/Nuclear Physics
Tokai/Laboratory for Nuclear Physics [Shoji Nagamiya]

it is the "Republic of Korea"

eliminate Korea Institute of Geoscience

from India:

Variable Energy Science Centre in Calcutta
Nuclear Science Centre in New-Delhi
Babha Atomic Energy Research Institute in Mombai
Centre for Advanced Technology in Indore ?
[Bikash Sinha was approached at QM2005 and W.T.H. van Oers has contacted him in writing with the request of being the intermediairy]

from Israel:

SOREQ [S.H. Aronson, M.Lewitowicz]
other ?

from South-Africa:

THEMBA Laboratories [A.W. Thomas]

from Egypt:

Atomic Energy Authority [W.T.H. van Oers]

from Algeria:

[M. Lewitowicz]

from Russia:

Institute of Nuclear Research in Troitsk [Victor Matveev was contacted]
IHEP in Protvino [S.H. Aronson]
JINR in Dubna [S.H. Aronson]
Petersburg Nuclear Physics Institute in Gatchina [Dmitri    Seliverstov/Alexey A. Vorobyovwere contacted]

from the rest of Europe:

many entries in the IUPAP Brochure were taken from the NuPECC Handbook on Nuclear Physics Laboratories and are therefore INCOMPLETE -> how to get the additional information? [W.F. Henning]

from Canada:

ISOTRACE [J-M. Poutissou]

from USA:

5 institutes are missing [S.H. Aronson]

from CERN:

ALICE [B. Erazmus]
COMPASS [M. Lewitowicz]
ISOLDE [B. Erazmus]
NTOF [W.F. Henning]

from France:

GANIL, information will be updated [M. Lewitowicz]

note that the names in SQUARE BRACKETS are those members of CICNP who have agreed the obtain the particular missing information

there was also a concern expressed about the preciseness of the questions for which a response is being sollicited; the questionnaire may need to be revised; write to everyone who responded with a few examples of properly completed questionnaires; national statistics are to be removed from the individual responses. [A.W. Thomas]

3) General discussion about the objectives of the report being prepared:

clearly the report should have as introduction a description of the most important and compelling nuclear physics research with as main subsections -

Nuclear Structure and Nuclear Astrophysics
QCD and Quark Matter
Hadronic Physics
Fundamental Symmetries and Neutrino Physics.

which is then the status of nuclear physics worldwide and where is nuclear physics research going? which are the human resources involved?

Stefan Michalowski:

The IUPAP Working Group and its Report could be extremely useful
The Report can send a strong message that will be noted at the government level
The Report should be a compendium of fundamental nuclear physics; it should not transgress the borders to isotope production and nuclear medicine and other applied sciences; it will make a large difference whether or not a particular nuclear physics facility is included in the compilation; it will constitute a message to the science funding agencies; there are very large nuclear physics facilities but there is a long tail to smaller and smaller facilities, the rationale for which need to be carefully explained; one of the illustrations in the Report could be a map of the world with the nuclear physics facilities marked; a third part of the Report should provide important statistics information in tabular form including on human resources.

the report should contain a summary of the types of nuclear physics facilities with statistics according to the following subfields:

Nuclear Structure and Nuclear Astrophysics [R.F. Casten, M. Lewitowicz, T. Motobayashi]
QCD and Quark Matter [S.H. Aronson, B. Erazmus]
Hadronic Physics [A.W. Thomas, W.F. Henning,
Shoji Nagamiya, W.T.H. van Oers]
Fundamental Symmetries and Neutrino Physics [J.M. Poutissou and Shoji Nagamiya]


4) About OECD and the Megascience Forum


Stefan Michalowski: The Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development groups 30 countries sharing a commitment to democratic government and the market economy. With active relationships to some 70 other countries, NGO's and civil society, it has a global reach.
Best known for its publications and its statistics, its work covers economic and social issues from macroeconomics, to trade, education, development, science and innovation. Its governing body, the Council, is made up of representatives of the member countries (at the Ambassador level). It provides guidance on the work of OECD committees.
Within the Megascience Forum there are Working Groups established studying and reporting on a particular topic. The Globalscience Forum was established in 1992 following the initiative of Alan Bromley.
Any non-defense, non-security issue can be discussed (see the OECD website under Megascience Forum). The OECD has its headquarters in Paris.

The OECD Megascience Report from the previous Working Group on Nuclear Physics dates 31 January 1999. (Note that IUPAP has currently eight Working Groups, for example PANAGIC is one of these. Unlike the Megascience Forum Working Groups which get resolved once the final report is submitted, the IUPAP Working Groups have no exact term.)
The initiative for the new established Megascience Forum Working Group on Nuclear Physics came from the US. The membership will be at the government and funding agency level. It will call on experts from the nuclear physics community to exert an advisory role. The IUPAP Working Group could be in an excellent position to give advise from the perspective of the worldwide community of nuclear physicists.

The Megascience Forum Working Group on Nuclear Physics is to discuss the landscape of the most important nuclear physics questions as internationally agreed upon. It is to map the scientific questions to nuclear physics facilities. It is to designate what is globally realizable and appropriate for a 15 to 20 year period. In addition to the science it will examn the human resources required and currently projected to be available.
Once the membership of the Working Group on Nuclear Physics has been established, it will work out a plan of action (meeting late fall this year in Paris or Washington, DC), which is to be approved by the Council in February 2006.

Further discussion by all: Clearly the first action of the IUPAP Working Group on Nuclear Physics is the writing of a document containing three parts: an overview of the current most important nuclear physics questions; a compilation of all nuclear physics facilities worldwide existing and in the construction or advanced planning stage; a conformal mapping of addressing the scientific questions on to the nuclear physics facilities.

The first part should consist of an overview of a maximum of two pages [A.W. Thomas] followed by subsections, each with a maximum of three pages on:

Nuclear Structure and Nuclear Astrophysics [R.F. Casten, M. Lewitowicz, T. Motobayashi]
QCD and Quark Matter [S.H. Aronson, B. Erazmus]
Hadronic Physics [A.W. Thomas, W.F. Henning, Shoji Nagamiya, W.T.H. van Oers]
Fundamental Symmetries and Neutrino Physics [J-M. Poutissou, Shoji Nagamiya]

! The deadline for receipt of these writings as well as for the
! mapping of the science to the facilities is November 1, 2005.

The status of the report by the deadline of December 1, 2005, will determine the necessity of having a meeting of the whole committee (early in 2006). Your secretary need to be informed about your availability as early as possible.

Further meetings of the committee will be at the time of the annual general meeting of C12, the IUPAP Commission on Nuclear Physics.
To reduce overall travel expenses the meeting of C12 in 2006 will take place at a city with a major international airport with non-stop flights overseas and across the continent.


Jefferson Laboratory
August 23, 2005.


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